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The scope of your viewpoint is incorrect regarding the mark narrative, the passage indicates there are two beasts a sea based beast, and an earth based beast. In context its describing the world hegemonic empires at the time of the Mark, a powerful militarily sea based empire, whom the rest of the nations understand they cannot defeat militarily, and a second new beast that rises out of the earth that in context forces everyone in the earth beast to receive a mark to buy and sell. What does that mean, a powerful internal domestic national earth beast control mechanism ensuring all transactions are related to the mark, likely encompassing biometrics, and a cashless society.

Now to have a perspective of which nations are rising out of the sea and which nations are rising out of the earth we must in context have a reference point. I suggest to you that reference point should be Jerusalem, the Holy City that the Lord has loved where he was crucified, resurrected, etc. So from the perspective of Jerusalem if you look at a map, its noteworthy that there are many seas, west Mediterranean, North East Caspian, South West red sea, North black sea, North East Sea of Galilee, there are also the great seas, the far west Atlantic, the south east Indian ocean, and to the far east the Pacific ocean. Now then it should easier for you to discern from the perspective of living in Jerusalem which nation is a sea beast based military superpower, and which nation that rises out of the earth to the east of Jerusalem.

So then if you apply this world view templates to search in modern times for the sea beast based on this understanding alone it leaves Europe with its 1500 light naval warships, and America with its several hundred blue water heavy warships as potential candidates to fulfill the narratives.

Then if you apply this world view of perspective of Jerusalem only to the east Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India, China do you have nations that rise out of the Earth, and which of those nations has a count the number six plus six plus six equals eighteen digit identity number currently, and which of those nations has 700 million biometric live tracking surveillance cameras, and which of those nations pays with facial recognition, which of those nations is focused largely on domestic internal control, which of those nations is manufacturing half the worlds steel, etc?

Now lets examine your "everyone" in the context of Revelation 13 deeper, if a homeless person who digs through trash cans and lives his whole life in the same 5 miles area does not buy or sell or travel or interact with the state can they live without the mark in china in the context of Revelation 13, yes so long as no police officer bothers them. What about dependents who live with other people who have the mark, people who do not buy or sell or interact with the state can they live without receiving the mark, yes since their food is provided for them by those who have the mark and they dont need to buy and sell to exist, only to interact in their society. So basically everyone doesnt include retired people or children, or handicapped, or people in china who reject the mark, although it is required to be shown to police upon demand in china or to travel in china or do most anything in china currently, and there is still cash in china, the images of the beasts which are worshiped throughout the earth, which means cash transactions although becoming rare are still possible in china, most commerce is conducted on cell phones in china, with accounts related to the mark.

The second image of the beast that rises out of the earth can speak and force people to do things, that is very much inline with your current world view about robots and machine learning, and what authoritarian nation is pushing societal scale integration of robots and machine learning more than china?

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